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A news item involving Whitney Houston was featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the In the news section on 12 February 2012.

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A fact from this article was featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the On this day section on February 11, 2022 and February 11, 2023.

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Section size for Whitney Houston (37 sections)
Section name	Byte count	Section total
(Top)	8,554	8,554
Early life and family	9,242	9,242
Career	11	125,444
1978–1984: Career beginnings	9,928	9,928
1985–86: Whitney Houston and rise to international prominence	14,062	14,062
1987–89: Whitney	11,789	11,789
1990–91: I'm Your Baby Tonight and "The Star-Spangled Banner"	15,227	15,227
1992–94: The Bodyguard	24,098	24,098
1995–97: Waiting to Exhale, The Preacher's Wife and Cinderella	18,068	18,068
1998–2000: My Love Is Your Love and Whitney: The Greatest Hits	12,502	12,502
2000–2008: Just Whitney and personal struggles	14,054	14,054
2009–2012: Return and I Look to You	5,705	5,705
Personal life	666	6,233
Marriage to Bobby Brown	5,567	5,567
Death and funeral	10,541	44,778
Reaction	17	15,787
Pre-Grammy party	3,757	3,757
Further reaction and tributes	12,013	12,013
Posthumous sales	6,936	6,936
Posthumous releases	11,514	11,514
Artistry	16,849	16,849
Legacy and influence	23,930	23,930
Awards and achievements	18,160	18,160
Philanthropy	6,517	6,517
Documentaries and portrayals	33	6,656
Documentaries	3,443	3,443
Portrayals	3,180	3,180
Discography	408	408
Filmography	733	733
Tours	64	610
Headlining tours	490	490
Co-headlining tours	56	56
See also	295	295
Notes	24	24
References	30	30
Further reading	1,496	1,496
External links	4,045	4,045
Total	274,004	274,004

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Constant edit warring

This article continues to be ruined by edit warring by The Raincloud Kid (talk · contribs) mostly because of "simplified info" as the reason by removing added content. They were blocked due to this, but something else needs to come up as a solution to stop this. Phạm Huy Thông (talk · contribs) continues to go back and forth with this user as they did in a recent edit, like again for the block. TheGreatestLuvofAll ( chat with me ) 05:39, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"a tumultuous marriage" should not describe a domestic abuse situation

Whitney Houston has clearly stated that her ex-husband was abusive (ex: https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/whitney-houston-discusses-bobby-brown-oprah-winfrey/story?id=8568203), he hit her, spit on her, etc. Even rarer, the abuser has himself admitted to hitting her (https://people.com/celebrity/bobby-brown-admits-hitting-whitney-houston-details-couples-drug-usage/).

Can we stop using words like "tumultuous marriage" (volatile marriage, etc) when describing domestic abuse towards women? It denies their reality, and makes them part of the problem. Subconsciously it even makes them the issue in the story: "she had drug abuse and she was in a tumultuous marriage", which implies that she chose to be hit, beaten up and spit on.

It also makes the whole thing almost glamorous and sexy, it's tumultuous, it's passionate. That's how feminicides are still sometimes presented, crimes of passion, while they are not.

Synonyms of tumultuous are: tempestuous stormy turbulent in turmoil passionate intense

None of these apply to a domestic abuse situation.

We now know better, victims of domestic abuse can stay decades in abusive relationships for many, many reasons, including society not believing them or helping them. Can we present the facts as they are, she was in an abusive domestic relationship.

Or, she was in an alleged abusive domestic relationship, if you want to stay as neutral as possible. Zelottine (talk) 13:18, 6 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 16 April 2024

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Cause of death is not stated despite being record. “ The Los Angeles County coroner ruled that Houston’s February 11 death was an accidental drowning with the “effects of atherosclerotic heart disease and cocaine use” as contributing factors.”

https://www.cnn.com/2012/04/04/showbiz/whitney-houston-toxicology/index.html 104.218.129.171 (talk) 17:22, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Already done This is already mentioned in the lead and again in the death and funeral section (last paragraph of both). Jamedeus (talk) 17:39, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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greates = greatest 2603:8000:D300:3650:A404:83BC:E40B:F3E7 (talk) 19:24, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done Hyphenation Expert (talk) 20:29, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How to condense this article

As we see, the article got the "too long" tag and I've been trying by myself to make sure it's readable and not too long but I need some help too. I wonder what the solution should be here. BrothaTimothy (talk · contribs) 15:37, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]